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This was after Susan Pinsky’s (Dr. Drew’s Wife) “Calling Out” Podcast. A big thank you to Dr. Denise McDermott for her wisdom and for Susan, Gina Grad, Hoyt Richards for an amazing eye opening experience. A special thank you shout out to Lisa Williams and my hubby Freddy for the coincidences of this meeting even occurring. — with Gina Grad, Susan Sailer Pinsky, Dr. Denise McDermott and Hoyt Richards.

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Calling Out: Cults & Ghosts  ~  Former Cult member Hoyt Richards talks about his years trapped in a cult and how he overcame to help free others. Then Medium Jennifer Shaffer and crime-solving partner Psychiatrist Denise McDermott check in….